Recently i stumbled upon a site forum for an online Islamic Community discussing Why “Same-Sex Marriage” Is not allowed in Islam among-est many other topics. The online site is Islam.com and you can follow the link to this Islamic online based community by clicking the image below;
I participated in the discussion with a respond to the overview presented about the topic by Islamic and will publish the responding response to my comment thread if and when a reply is received. I chose to comment on this topic as i found it would be challenging and their is very little opportunity in understanding between a religious Islamic point of view opposing the issue and those for implementing & incorporating this into society. I do not provide references to my perspectives and do not explore any evidence presented as a reference by Islam.com.
Forum discussion of Why “Same-Sex Marriage” Is not allowed in Islam?
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Why “Same-Sex Marriage” is not allowed in Islam? Volunteers, please include a Quranic reference, or at least, use textual evidence from Hadiths.
Thank you for your question dear brother.
Im glad you asked for textual proofs in your question as well.
This question reflects the amount of corruption, indecency and evil that is unfortunately acceptable and normal in the Western world which has sadly also affected the Muslim world.
How on earth can these people accept the shameless actions of homosexual and not only that, legalize it, normalize it, and protect it by law?? Even in their society, this was unthinkable some years back.
In Islam, just because someone has certain thoughts doesn’t make it all right for him to proceed with such thoughts. An angry man who has the thought of killing his mother isn’t justified in his actions because he was feeling a certain way in that time. This is exactly one of the arguments that they use to justify this sin and go against any opposition.
For non-Muslims who oppose the Islamic law, stating that homosexual acts is acceptable because its consensual and has no harm, we flatly refuse your justification. In Islam, right and wrong isn’t determined by what’s consensual but what Allah commands.
As for textual evidence, please see http://www.islamqa.com/en/search?key=homosexual&yt0=search
You can read about the story of the people of Lut (alaihis salam), the Prophet who was sent to the people who practiced this shameful sin in the Quran.
My Comment Thread reply;
This is a very difficult & challenging topic to comment about unless you have walked the mans path of understanding in what is regarded & stated by you as shameful actions that are sinful in Islam and under the Prophets universal law of treating our brothers and sisters equally we learn abidance and discipline of our willful actions without the need to act or rebel against homosexuality in violence against your brother or sister.
What understanding may we have not reached within our fathers will to not be able to peacefully and gracefully in the name of the prophet be led a straight path shown to us by the understanding of having the homosexuals disarray along his path to enlightenment. It is a great test we all equally learn of abidance and discipline of our will to make the rightful choice accordingly to gods spoken word.
So no doubt a dilemma in our Islamic society with a recent surge of doubtfully focusing on ones own will rather than our fathers collective will in his name they spoke of his will, Gods will as they did to reach enlightenment.
I therefore think the core issue underlines in social education from child hood to maturity or should i say the lack of it. Healthy Views must be communicated & understood to be apart of our integral society with the fundamental individual beliefs becoming a journey of experiences understood to reach ones soul of enlightenment. The concept is one and the paths are many but when our selfish beliefs without any disregard of others it will end in violence & misunderstanding.
I am not suggesting to implement Islam and its integration into society by a form of core set of individual or collective beliefs destined to failure for you cannot tell man who god is and your set of beliefs around this, man must find god himself.
Islam is a religion that enlightens the core soul of an individual and infinite love for itself, surroundings and creator in all humbleness. For this message to be integrated among est societies & implemented only once the understanding has been reached Islam will require lot of patients to withstand events such as homosexuality.
I found this topic challenging to comment on and discuss and it frustrates me Islam is unable to find a balance for an integrated approach to re educate society such that they can socially integrate their own values and find their true purpose in life easier.
I am a Muslim myself by origin but for many reasons that incorporated Islamic teachings with the wrong applied approach of Islamic Ideology i have found my life’s answers else where but however do not totally reject Islam simply the many methods it is taught by will not communicate an understanding to the souls journey upon enlightenment.
I believe in equality that praises patients and a nonjudgmental approach of communicating to that what should be an exciting path of learning to god. Islam caters for this approach if the right people facilitate this.
I thank you for letting me share this information and hope it is beneficial, i also look forward to your educated comments regarding my approach.
My Comment Thread above was followed by the following reply by the moderator of Islam.com;
Asalaam o alaikum, Brother, Islam prohibits Homosexuality, and there are numerous verses in the Quran and Hadiths available, that state this fact. There are five references in the Qur’an which have been cited as referring to gay and lesbian behavior. Some obviously deal with effeminate men and “masculine women.” The two main references to homosexual behavior are:
“We also sent Lut : He said to his people : “Do ye commit lewdness such as no people in creation (ever) committed before you? For ye practice your lusts on men in preference to women: ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds.” Qur’an 7:80-81
“What! Of all creatures do ye come unto the males, and leave the wives your Lord created for you? Nay, but ye are forward folk.” Qur’an 26:16
Two others as mentioned, are,
“Of all the creatures in the world, will ye approach males, And leave those whom Allah has created for you to be your mates? Nay, ye are a people transgressing (all limits)!”(chp26 v165-166)
Would ye really approach men in your lusts rather than women? Nay, ye are a people (grossly) ignorant! (chp27 v55)
And (remember) Lut: behold, he said to his people: “Ye do commit lewdness, such as no people in Creation (ever) committed before you. Do ye indeed approach men, and cut off the highway?- and practise wickedness (even) in your councils?” But his people gave no answer but this: they said: “Bring us the Wrath of God if thou tellest the truth.(chp 29 v28-29)
The Hadith and homosexuality: Many Hadiths discuss liwat (sexual intercourse between males). Two examples are:
“When a man mounts another man, the throne of God shakes.”
“Kill the one that is doing it and also kill the one that it is being done to.” (in reference to the active and passive partners)
Narrated AbuSa’id al-Khudri: The Prophet (saws) said: A man should not look at the private parts of another man, and a woman should not look at the private parts of another woman. A man should not lie with another man without wearing lower garment under one cover; and a woman should not be lie with another woman without wearing lower garment under one cover. (Abu Dawood)
Narrated AbuHurayrah: The Prophet (saws) said: A man should not lie with another man and a woman should not lie with another woman without covering their private parts except a child or a father. He also mentioned a third thing which I forgot. (Abu Dawood)
There is at least one mention of lesbian behavior mentioned in the Hadith: “Sihaq (lesbian activity) of women is zina among them.”
InshaAllah this helps.